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we'll look at the status of the debt talks, and talk to journalist pam constable about her new book on pakistan. i'm judy woodruff. >> lehrer: and i'm jim lehrer. "washington week" can be seen later this evening on most pbs stations. we'll see you online, and again here monday evening. have a nice weekend. thank you and good night. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: chevron. we may have more in common than you think. >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation. dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy, productive life. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
we'll look at the status of the debt talks, and talk to journalist pam constable about her new book on pakistan. i'm judy woodruff. >> lehrer: and i'm jim lehrer. "washington week" can be seen later this evening on most pbs stations. we'll see you online, and again here monday evening. have a nice weekend. thank you and good night. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: chevron. we may have more in common than you think. >> and by the bill and melinda...
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pakistan at war with itself. by "washington post" correspondent pamela constable dell ofs into all of this. and joins us now, it is good to you have with us. >> thank you so much. >> woodruff: a provocative title, playing with fire, pakistan at wore with itself. what dow mean by that? >> it mean bes-- many layers of meaning in that. playing with fire in the sense that pakistan has always flirted with dangerous notions. it's always sort of had this nuanced subtle, denied unclear relationship with all these militant groups mostly because they want us to use them as proxies against india which is their long-term adversary but now it has come back to haunt them and many of these same militant islamic groups that they sort of thought they could manage or handle have gotten way out of control and not only moving against afghanistan but in many cases turning against the pakistani state itself. >> you spent a lot of time in the country reporting from there, pam constable. the feeling many ode pakistanies have for the tal
pakistan at war with itself. by "washington post" correspondent pamela constable dell ofs into all of this. and joins us now, it is good to you have with us. >> thank you so much. >> woodruff: a provocative title, playing with fire, pakistan at wore with itself. what dow mean by that? >> it mean bes-- many layers of meaning in that. playing with fire in the sense that pakistan has always flirted with dangerous notions. it's always sort of had this nuanced subtle,...
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raid into pakistan that led to the killing of osama bin laden. you also would do away with, in essence, the c.i.a. why did you oppose the raid and what would you put in the place of it? >> well, the question to me was i was just saying it could be done differently. i mean, all this does was raise questions and i predicted that this would lead to a lot of resentment and think of the chaos in pakistan and the mess thate have. we both bomb them and give them money and people hate their own government because their own government's a puppet of ours. my frustration with bin laden was it took so long. >> woodruff: and the c.i.a., you would.... >> couric: i don't think the c.i.a. should be a military arm of the government dropping bombs secretly. you can't even separate the two. you don't even know who is controlling the bombing of this country now. >> woodruff: a couple questions about your campaign. you have a son who was elected to the united states senate rand paul from the state of kentucky. this is your third try for president. there was some talk
raid into pakistan that led to the killing of osama bin laden. you also would do away with, in essence, the c.i.a. why did you oppose the raid and what would you put in the place of it? >> well, the question to me was i was just saying it could be done differently. i mean, all this does was raise questions and i predicted that this would lead to a lot of resentment and think of the chaos in pakistan and the mess thate have. we both bomb them and give them money and people hate their own...
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united states that there have been scores of night raids conducted by these forces in afghanistan in pakistan in yemen in somalia where innocent people have been killed or when someone that they meant to kill was killed but scores of innocent people were killed along with them so if we're going to get into the business of making assassinations our norm that's really what these are assassinations and we need to be ready for the blowback because we're creating a whole new generation of enemies that wouldn't normally have been our enemies because we've killed people in their family especially those who have done no wrong and were the victims of bad intelligence so right it's a very dangerous game and it's become the obama administration's policy john brennan announced a few weeks ago no more big occupations it we're all in the business of surgical strikes which is a code word for assassinations all right jeremy scahill author and investigative journalist if you haven't read his article in the nation magazine definitely check it out. turning now what is turning out to be an avalanche of a scandal
united states that there have been scores of night raids conducted by these forces in afghanistan in pakistan in yemen in somalia where innocent people have been killed or when someone that they meant to kill was killed but scores of innocent people were killed along with them so if we're going to get into the business of making assassinations our norm that's really what these are assassinations and we need to be ready for the blowback because we're creating a whole new generation of enemies...
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and if we don't stop this squabbling over whether we're going to give certain monies to pakistan or not and give them and further demoralize the size of the military the civilians and so forth we're going to have a problem there even though this administrator wants desperately to get out of afghanistan at least major tree formations that we can't we simply can't leave because pakistan is going to be in such bad shape that to leave will simply be to baghdad we introduction of major forces to restabilize or try to restabilize progress so then tell me about general john allen who's about to take over and petraeus is former all after just a year do you think that he's someone who is capable of this job how is he going to handle it well i taught at the marine corps war college for four years and frankly . person per person not prefer marine general star me joe it's not really what i like because they're more candid they're more straightforward and generally speaking you know they're willing to speak truth to power a little more than somebody army generals i don't know if he's that partic
and if we don't stop this squabbling over whether we're going to give certain monies to pakistan or not and give them and further demoralize the size of the military the civilians and so forth we're going to have a problem there even though this administrator wants desperately to get out of afghanistan at least major tree formations that we can't we simply can't leave because pakistan is going to be in such bad shape that to leave will simply be to baghdad we introduction of major forces to...
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raid that killed osama bin laden inside pakistan. reports in britain now say former prime minister gordon brown was one of the victims of phone hacking by a tabloid newspaper "news of the world". the rupert murdoch media conglomerate has closed the paper. and it delayed efforts today to take over another company, british sky broadcasting or, b- sky-b. we have a report from gary gibbon of "independent television news." >> reporter: gordon brown wooed the murdoch empire like the best of them. but they turned on him, backing david cameron in the last election. today, he turned on them. gordon brown believes his phone and that of his wife may have been hacked into by the "news of the world." he believes someone working on behalf of the "sunday times" accessed his bank account and he believes his son's medical records were obtained by the "sun" newspaper. >> that they had information that fraser had cystic fibrosis which was a matter that they the family were just getting their heads around at the time and dealing with. >> reporter: it wa
raid that killed osama bin laden inside pakistan. reports in britain now say former prime minister gordon brown was one of the victims of phone hacking by a tabloid newspaper "news of the world". the rupert murdoch media conglomerate has closed the paper. and it delayed efforts today to take over another company, british sky broadcasting or, b- sky-b. we have a report from gary gibbon of "independent television news." >> reporter: gordon brown wooed the murdoch empire...
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drone strikes in pakistan now it's anybody that follows our ever expanding war on terrorism that statement seemed a little too good to be true and what do you know it was see this week the bureau of investigative journalism released a report that since august of two thousand and ten they have uncovered at least ten individual attacks in which forty five or more civilians appear to have died and that's a conservative estimate thing is it's also isn't the first time that a u.s. officials made a claim that under further investigation turned out to be completely false think back to the interview that we did with investigative reporter gareth porter who found that when general petraeus claimed last year that his raids have been a spectacular success over thirteen hundred taliban have been captured well he failed to mention that more than ninety percent of those captured had been released within days and found to be nothing more than innocent civilians or think back to when general john allen who's just taken over the war in afghanistan from the trace so to members of congress the violence in th
drone strikes in pakistan now it's anybody that follows our ever expanding war on terrorism that statement seemed a little too good to be true and what do you know it was see this week the bureau of investigative journalism released a report that since august of two thousand and ten they have uncovered at least ten individual attacks in which forty five or more civilians appear to have died and that's a conservative estimate thing is it's also isn't the first time that a u.s. officials made a...
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olsen beyond al qaeda's core leadership in pakistan and the al qaeda affiliates in yemen which terrorist group in your view poses the greatest threat to the country? >> i would say that beyond the al qaeda leadership in pakistan, its presence in yemen, probably the next most significant terrorist threat may emanate from the al qaeda presence in somalia. in terms of the willingness and apparent ability or at least the intent to strike outside of that particular country. we know that country, that group has successfully mounted an attack in uganda, and the apparent ability of the regional affiliates such as that to outside of the borders that country think poses a significant threat. but the threat goes beyond even just al qaeda of course and its affiliates. to two other groups such as hezbollah. so i think again, i have to say that i am not in a position at nctc now so i approach these types of questions with some humility and some deference to the professionals who are looking at these questions on a daily basis. >> one last question if i might. earlier this year undersecretary colin fro
olsen beyond al qaeda's core leadership in pakistan and the al qaeda affiliates in yemen which terrorist group in your view poses the greatest threat to the country? >> i would say that beyond the al qaeda leadership in pakistan, its presence in yemen, probably the next most significant terrorist threat may emanate from the al qaeda presence in somalia. in terms of the willingness and apparent ability or at least the intent to strike outside of that particular country. we know that...
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policy or the lack of faith regarding pakistan and afghanistan no less has been said about the nato operation or actually aerial intervention and bombing in libya take a close a look at how the nato air wield bombing in libya is related to american tribe vies in afghanistan and pakistan on a technical basis yes they nato intervention and indiscriminate bombing in libya could be both the united states and nato operation but technicalities aside it is not just a tune and a half wars for the united states in reality if not on the ground at least in the air over a levy very bombing is one hundred percent nato operation timing off nato operation against libya demonstrated not on the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and bad leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between genuine united states of america and its european nato partners. i am observing nature and discover its buzy. least the communicate with the wild under. test yourself and become free and. see what nature can give you an aunty. forty two thousand americans die each year from car accidents only
policy or the lack of faith regarding pakistan and afghanistan no less has been said about the nato operation or actually aerial intervention and bombing in libya take a close a look at how the nato air wield bombing in libya is related to american tribe vies in afghanistan and pakistan on a technical basis yes they nato intervention and indiscriminate bombing in libya could be both the united states and nato operation but technicalities aside it is not just a tune and a half wars for the...
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policy or the leg off a it regarding pakistan and afghanistan no less has been said about the nato operation or actually aerial intervention and bombing in libya take a closer look how the nato aerial bombing in leave there is related to american tries in afghanistan and pakistan on a technical basis yes they nato intervention and indiscriminate bombing and libya could be both the united states and nato operation but technicalities aside it is not just a turn a half wars for the united states in reality if not on the ground at least in the air over a levy at the bombing is one hundred percent nato operation timing of nato operation against libya demonstrated not only of the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and afghan leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap be to be in genuine united states of america and its here opinion nato partners. with the law from moscow it's good to have you with us on that this saturday a quick summary of the headlines coming your way in just a moment. the are. the limits the says the news is. just so. the same is. on the i. dow
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these the first attacks here since gunmen from pakistan laid siege to the city in 2008. the authorities were taken by surprise. nobody has claimed responsibility for the attacks, although security experts say a domestic group-- the indian mughadeen are prime suspects. few here can see the point of it. "what do we tell our children," said this man. "they think these adults are mad." why kill innocent people? tonight, security has been ramped up across the nation and the police now better trained and resourced than they were a few years ago, but there are no shortage of targets in a country of 1.2 billion. >> sreenivasan: mumbai is india's financial capital and home to its movie industry as well. u.s. stocks turned lower today after federal reserve chairman ben bernanke played down talk of new stimulus moves. he had said yesterday that the fed was ready to act, if the economy gets worse. today, he emphasized that he expects things to improve, albeit slowly. in response, the dow jones industrial average lost 54 points to close at 12,437. the nasdaq fell 34 points to close a
these the first attacks here since gunmen from pakistan laid siege to the city in 2008. the authorities were taken by surprise. nobody has claimed responsibility for the attacks, although security experts say a domestic group-- the indian mughadeen are prime suspects. few here can see the point of it. "what do we tell our children," said this man. "they think these adults are mad." why kill innocent people? tonight, security has been ramped up across the nation and the...
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yemen somalia parts of north africa and other locations i've always believed pakistan is more central to what have you noticed a change in the guard at the department of defense with robert gates retiring and former cia chief leon panetta getting sworn in signals this change of course to critics i see no difference between between him and robert gates and for afghanistan we now hear a presidential pledge to pull thirty three thousand troops out by september two thousand and twelve fully we're covering the surge i have now at west point well it certainly sounds like what the american people would like to hear for the first time ever a majority want u.s. troops out of afghanistan as soon as possible fifty six percent or thirty nine percent want troops there until the situation is stabilized you can see the trend is really flip flopped but what is the reality of obama's plans for troop withdrawal that thirty three thousand he's calling for is a minority of the one hundred thousand american troops that are there that's not including another forty two thousand some nato troops and ninety t
yemen somalia parts of north africa and other locations i've always believed pakistan is more central to what have you noticed a change in the guard at the department of defense with robert gates retiring and former cia chief leon panetta getting sworn in signals this change of course to critics i see no difference between between him and robert gates and for afghanistan we now hear a presidential pledge to pull thirty three thousand troops out by september two thousand and twelve fully we're...
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in pakistan. the us is within reach of defeating al qaida and eliminating ten to twenty top militants will cripple the group for good that was the statement from the new us defense chief leon panetta and his military contributor he's getting who shall believe the shell's banana's taken to the post with a clear vision of the threats facing the us. for every pentagon observer there reasons always a special moment when the result change of guard at the puzzle palace as the pentagon is widely known in a narrow circle of professionals so it was the particular event. has reincarnating in his new capacity as the military chief during his first interview in his new capacity he pointed to the troika all of them multiple challenges to the united states national security emanating from pakistan yemen and somalia he is clear cut vision deserves full support both within and outside the united states it was just a pity that some of the u.s. media commissariat try to spoiled his new vision when after the meeting
in pakistan. the us is within reach of defeating al qaida and eliminating ten to twenty top militants will cripple the group for good that was the statement from the new us defense chief leon panetta and his military contributor he's getting who shall believe the shell's banana's taken to the post with a clear vision of the threats facing the us. for every pentagon observer there reasons always a special moment when the result change of guard at the puzzle palace as the pentagon is widely known...
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operation against libya demonstrated not on the of the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and afghan leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between the genuine united states of america and its here opinion nato partners. you with a lot from moscow it's good to have you with us on the path of a quick summary of the headlines coming your way in just a moment. the are. the losers the soyuz. seems. the same it's on. her. download the official mt application to go on the phone called touch from the q.'s ops to see all she life on the go six six video on demand on season long fuel costs an r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your posts questions on. the nature and discover in. the lead. communicate with the wyoming. test yourself and become free to me see what nature can give you the. he's available in. central. beach. people killed. in the. prime minister's office was. in the building at the. global jihad. but. i will keep you updated on developments and also throughout the day here on out. stay with us a change of tone between now and then as we bring you the l
operation against libya demonstrated not on the of the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and afghan leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between the genuine united states of america and its here opinion nato partners. you with a lot from moscow it's good to have you with us on the path of a quick summary of the headlines coming your way in just a moment. the are. the losers the soyuz. seems. the same it's on. her. download the official mt application to...
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in pakistan. next we've got a business news was made three stay with us. thanks very much merida ratings agencies like standard and poor's and moody's have become the subject of vicious attacks from politicians across europe russia is also unhappy with the system prime minister was in a putin says he wants the country to have its own ratings agency to get fair ratings but nick parsons from national australia bank says it will only be trusted if it's even tougher. the only way in which an ratings agency can build independent global credibility is if it seemed to be free of all pressure now the only way in which it can really be seen to be free of all pressure is to produce a lower ratings on the bonds all the assets that it's asked to consider rather than produce higher ratings because after all if a new ratings agency whether it was in europe or whether it was in russia or whether it was anywhere else in the world if a new ratings agency miraculously decided that in its opinion the rating was substantially higher than anyone else had previously thought i t
in pakistan. next we've got a business news was made three stay with us. thanks very much merida ratings agencies like standard and poor's and moody's have become the subject of vicious attacks from politicians across europe russia is also unhappy with the system prime minister was in a putin says he wants the country to have its own ratings agency to get fair ratings but nick parsons from national australia bank says it will only be trusted if it's even tougher. the only way in which an...
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pakistan does not want to watch from the sidelines when pakistan says that there should be direct negotiations between the united states and the taliban what it is also saying is that pakistan wants to be at the table also because don't forget most of your viewers know this the leadership of the taliban is not enough gamestation like al qaeda it is in pakistan it cannot operate there independently it has to have institutional backing. and the struggle for a land rides in israel there is one place that's still a no go area fifty years ago was a thriving palestinian community but they were driven out and now israel's eye it up as a luxury getaway artist calls me or has a story. this old in the mountains of jerusalem are the remains of a once bustling community only the memories of those who once lived here have survived intact i feel. the comeback and. my. hard since this rain. and. my car that. grew up among the cacti and fig trees that in one nine hundred forty eight just before the state of israel was declared his family evacuated unlike the hundreds of villages that disappeared in forty eigh
pakistan does not want to watch from the sidelines when pakistan says that there should be direct negotiations between the united states and the taliban what it is also saying is that pakistan wants to be at the table also because don't forget most of your viewers know this the leadership of the taliban is not enough gamestation like al qaeda it is in pakistan it cannot operate there independently it has to have institutional backing. and the struggle for a land rides in israel there is one...
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this week and accused of working for pakistan. this is the latest in a rapidly deteriorating relationship which was highlighted when the u.s. killed osama bin laden and pakistan. the prime minister is currently in london. my colleague asked if he understood why the u.s. had not told pakistan. >> that is the thing we did not like. >> you understand why? >> they did not want to share their victory with pakistan, they only want to share defeat. >> what they're indicating is that they did not trust the military and your security services to not leak it. >> when we had intelligence sharing with them and the people, the most wanted terrorist of al qaeda, we helped them. there was no reason not to share with us. >> did the isi note that osama bin laden was less than a mile away from your defense academy? >> he had been there for a long time. i want to ask you one question, whether the world intelligence failed? the whole failure of the world. >> did you know that bin laden was there? did your intelligence service know he was there? >> th
this week and accused of working for pakistan. this is the latest in a rapidly deteriorating relationship which was highlighted when the u.s. killed osama bin laden and pakistan. the prime minister is currently in london. my colleague asked if he understood why the u.s. had not told pakistan. >> that is the thing we did not like. >> you understand why? >> they did not want to share their victory with pakistan, they only want to share defeat. >> what they're indicating is...
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look how the nato air we'll bombing in lead is related to american trove of eyes in afghanistan and pakistan on a technical basis yes they nato intervention and indiscriminate bombing in libya could be both the united states and nato operation but technicalities aside if he's not just a tune and a half wars for the united states in reality if not on the ground at least in the air over a levy if the bombing is one hundred percent of nato operation great timing nato operation against libya demonstrated not the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and have been leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between the. united states of america and its european nato partners. headlines this a couple minutes here not. of the. if the motion would be soon which bryson. song from feinstein christian. means from stone tante don't come. wealthy british style sun rose is not on the. markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy in cons a report on r.t. if you're followed up on my idea. the chinese are sort of a twelve pack and aren't kid codified l
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policy or the leg afraid to regarding pakistan and afghanistan and no less has been said about the nato operation or actually aerial intervention and bombing in levy or take a closer look how the nato aerial bombing in leave there is related to american tribe vies in afghanistan and pakistan on a technical basis yes they nato intervention and indiscriminate bombing and laid there will be both of the united states and nato operation but technicalities aside it is not just a turn a half wars for the united states in reality if not on the ground at least in the air over a levy or the bombing is one hundred percent a nato operation timing nato operation against libya demonstrated not on the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and bad good leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between the genuine united states of america and its peon nato partners you know right now it's with the five minutes past the hour here in the russian capital we will be back with the latest headlines in just minutes. in the. if. the a. muslim is. the. least some. posts to be pick
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being overshadowed by money talk we will tell you all the details you need to know about afghanistan pakistan and other places where the u.s. is dropping bombs still plus senators may be sneakily in talks to renew a law that lets buy agencies track your location at any time with no oversight we'll have all of that and more on tonight's show but first what did the mainstream media. all right as the fall continues to threaten the country the mainstream media took a break from their coverage of that to report on the horrible fate that has the fallen a popular game show host take a look. game show host elektra bell extra back found himself in serious jeopardy when police say an intruder broke into his san francisco hotel room to state evening jeopardy game show host alex threw back toward his achilles tendon chasing down a burglar. he. will have should reach morro in view to cast for six weeks. ok we all love jeopardy i have to admit that i do feel low to show staff to we are all huge fans we even play it live at times and we feel real real sorry for alex track that he has gotten rob has hurt his
being overshadowed by money talk we will tell you all the details you need to know about afghanistan pakistan and other places where the u.s. is dropping bombs still plus senators may be sneakily in talks to renew a law that lets buy agencies track your location at any time with no oversight we'll have all of that and more on tonight's show but first what did the mainstream media. all right as the fall continues to threaten the country the mainstream media took a break from their coverage of...
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policy or the lack of faith regarding pakistan and afghanistan no less has been said of the nato operation or actually aerial intervention and bombing in libya take a closer look how the nato aerial bombing in libya is related to american travel in afghanistan and pakistan on a technical basis yes they nato intervention and indiscriminate bombing and libya could be both the united states and major operation but technicalities aside it is not just a tune and a half wars for the united states in reality if not on the ground at least in the air over alleviate the bombing is one hundred percent nato operation it's timing nato operation against libya demonstrated not on the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and have been leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between the genuine united states of america and its european nato partners. headlines with next in just a couple of minutes stay with us here. of the. on. morning news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. china corporations
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